. >> there is boston guy and a massachusetts guy. is he qualified? certainly a lot of years in the military certainly a lot of years in the senate. is he he qualified. >> i suppose he is. all the old stories. the testimony from 1971 when he he said that some of his fellow soldiers were vietnam from war criminals. i really don't think that he really wants to be secretary of defense. i think i would be the secretary of state. being the secretary of defense, you know, even if he had to go through a bruising confirmation process it's going to be a thankless job in the next few years. there are going to be defense department budget cuts. you have this mess in afghanistan. and these generals are involved in scandals. i think he would rather be secretary of state. >> clearly, i think he is lobbying for that job. one that looks like is going to susan rice. either way it looks like it could open up a spot for scott brown to run there in massachusetts which we won't get into. if kerr is is the secretary of defense. what does it tell you about the direction of